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347 Return

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:35 pm
by K2!
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Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:53 am
by Swan
Erm..... I *hate* to be the one to nitpick... but 'hath' is used incorrectly.
I have (past), I have (present), I shall have (future), First person
Thou hast, Thou hast, thou shalt have (singular), Second person singular
Ye hath, Ye have, Ye shalt have. Second person plural
He hath, He hath, he shalt have.
They have, they have, they shalt have.

And knave is a masculine insult. A knave is a male.
A disruptive female might be a wench, a bawd or similar.

TLoL's dialogue (I may be incorrect on some of this. I'm rusty)

"Pray, what tidings do thou bring?" (Present tense. not entirely sure on this one)
"Wench! Thou hast struck me!" (past tense.)
"Thy aura is cloaked in the raiment of the Order of Merlin! What is this effrontery?"

Ob. Pedant: The difference between thee, thou, 'thy' and 'thine' is in how they are used in a sentence. In the Lord's Prayer for example "Hallowed be Thy name.... for Thine is the kingdom and the power...." and so on.
'Thou' is subject 'thee' is object. "Thou hast lost thy cap, I shall return it to thee."

If I be incorrect, verily I crave correction from ye, my betters!

Swan (old SCA rat!)

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:57 am
by Greyhaunt
Merlin always did have terrible taste in women.

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:09 pm
by victoriavictrix
That would be

"What tidings dost thou bring?"

"dost" is the second person singular present of do.

"I do bring" "Thou dost bring"

And

"Wench! Thou hast struck me!"

"hast" is the second person singular present of have.

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:29 pm
by Swan
Ah! Right!
I do... thou dost!

I thank thee!

Thwan

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 2:52 pm
by victoriavictrix
Also, it would be

"Thine aura be" "Thine aura is" or "Thine aura doth be" not "Thoust aura art"

"Thine" is the possessive form of "thy". The verb could be "be", "is" or "doth be" pretty much on your preference. There is no "Thoust," which is only used by people who are trying to speak "forsoothly" and don't know the forms. There IS a "Thou'st" which is the contracted form of "Thou hast" (you have).

An aura, being something that is not a person, cannot be used with the word "art."

I'd also not use the word "rainment," which refers to clothing. An aura doesn't have clothes. Instead I would have said "Thine aura be cloaked in the seeming of the Order of Merlin...."

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:31 pm
by Mary Kathryn
I'm just trying really hard not to quote Monty Python.
"Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcicial aquatic ceremony!"

Sorry...I failed. XD

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:07 am
by K2!
Thank you all for your ye olde linguistic expertise.

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:22 pm
by Greyhaunt
Mary Kathryn wrote:I'm just trying really hard not to quote Monty Python.
"Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcicial aquatic ceremony!"

Sorry...I failed. XD


That's right! You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

Re: 347 Return

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:25 pm
by victoriavictrix
Greyhaunt wrote:
Mary Kathryn wrote:I'm just trying really hard not to quote Monty Python.
"Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcicial aquatic ceremony!"

Sorry...I failed. XD


That's right! You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!


I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!