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Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Barbie, Jenny, Fashion Royalty, Obitsu and 1/6 resins - basically anything 10-12inch/21-27cm or in the neighborhood.

Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby maywong » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:05 pm

~TurkishDelight~ wrote:Hmm, so TTM20's not the tallest guy out there, but it's ok as long as he looks taller than my Neo-Goh, and beefy. It's good he's so beefy, haha. As for the head, I wanted a Neo-Guy H04 head (the muscular guy). I am making an anime style character, but he's not as pretty or 'anime-streamline' as the Goh (not a bishonen), so I might be able to get a head that goes with the TTM20 body that looks similar to the Neo-Guy H04 and repaint it a more anime style. I just have no idea what heads there are for that body. :?

Neo-Guy H04 head:
http://tinypic.com/r/2w1skus/8


Doll body comparison:
http://tinypic.com/r/2wnsfaf/8


I'd love to share pics of my progress with this project one day, now I just need to come up with some money for all my TTM20's stuff. :shock:


The Neo guy h05 head will not match the HT body skintone.
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby MeltedCaramel » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:09 am

For the boots, look up "1/6 boots" in the "Action Figures" section on Ebay. TONS of stuff pops up. Try and stay with ones that mention Hot Toys in the title, and make sure the boots are meant for a male character, but all sorts of boots pop up in all sorts of styles! If you explain to me what kind of style he has I could do a bit more of a specific search for you. :)

The head....the head may or may not fit the neck. It definitely won't match in colour though, so you'll have to repaint regardless. The neck for the Neo Guy has a similar stocky look to it though so I don't know. It may be worth a chance to try and cross breed these two. :D Plus, the Neo Guy head looks like he has some room where you can widen the head to fit on the neck if it's not an immediate fit!

The figure comparison: Errr...I wouldn't take that picture as fact. You need to remember that these dolls are taken in different pictures from different distances for the most part. There's a little bit of optical warping going on here. To take a true comparison you'd need to do them all in one picture with the feet or crotches lined up how Hegemony does it. So the sizes are definitely a little skewed here, but yes, the TTM body is a hefty hunk of plastic regardless! :lol:

I might file down the chest on the MH girl body. I saw someone soften the plastic with a candle flame (sootless birthday candle is best) and smoosh the chest down, then file it. I might try it, and hopefully I won't file it too much and make holes.
<-----Hmnnn, interesting idea on smooshing the boobies down into a male chest shape and then sanding it, but don't be afraid of that epoxie clay either! ;) That method is a surefire way of getting a nice thin male chest.

A fur tuft might work. He's not an anthro furry with an animal head. He looks mostly human, but has a big fox tail, large fox ears, and small paw feet. I flocked his legs and made paws, but I'm not sure how much of his body I'll cover, or if I'll just do the legs. Sometimes I imagine he's covered in fine fur (he's more of a skintone color like a fennec) with a white tuft on the chest, but I don't know if flocking the entire doll is a good idea. Sometimes he's not so furry. :lol:
<----Just wanted to point out that technically that's still considered an anthropomorphic fox. :) The fine fur, fox ears, tail, and feet are a definite hybrid. I know because of the internet people automatically think "furry", but when I was a child a lot of characters I made up had exactly the type of shape you're describing, completely with that short soft peach fuzz fur and longer hair in some areas. :D A fur tuft with a male shaped chest would look amazing. That's a lot of modification!

I'd love to share pics of my progress with this project one day, now I just need to come up with some money for all my TTM20's stuff. :shock:
[/quote][/quote] <----If you want to explain your other character's style a bit more I can point you in the general direction of some stuff. :D Don't worry, it sounds like TTM is a completely new body type and I understand not having the resources can be a little mind-boggling, but there is definitely plenty of stuff out there to fit. :D
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby Iwa_Hoshi » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:00 am

Ok.. about the TTM20.

Can I assume that all Hot Toys male head (ignoring skintone) would fit or should I just keep an eye out for their bigger guys like Chris Redfield, Thor and T-800?

Likewise for those Kumik heads or custom or blank or loose ebay heads?
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby MeltedCaramel » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:32 am

Well, "loose ebay heads" is a crapshoot obviously, but Hot Toys heads should be pretty swappable regardless of skin tone I think. Just take note if what style the head is done in. They're pretty swappable as long as you pay attention to the neck type. :D
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby ~TurkishDelight~ » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:01 am

MeltedCaramel, I looked on eBay for boots like you said, and all kinds of good stuff came up. I'd be happy with just about any of them, I'm not too picky about them. ^^ So anything that says for male Hot Toys should fit him?

I feel pretty lost about the head though. I have no idea what to look for, or what would look alright on the body. Would any Hot Toys head with a similar neck fit? Is there a line of heads to choose from? Maybe I should try to paint the Neo-Guy head? I have a feeling I won't be so good at that, haha. ^^

About the comparison pic, all the dolls (except the Neo-Goh) were in the same pic lined up next to each other. I just cut them out, lined up their feet, and put them next to each other (without resizing anyone). The Neo-Goh was from another picture, but he was standing next to a MH male. So I sized the pic so that the MH male was the same size as in Hegemony's pic, then put the Goh by Hegemony's dolls. The Goh looks about right next to the MH male when I compare my dolls in real life to the pic. I put a ruler next to my Goh, and it looks like that's about where the TTM20 would come by him, but yeah, I'm not taking that pic as fact like you said. ^^

Hegemony's original pic:
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2s77sqv.jpg

And I saw this pic of TTM20 next to a 25cm Obitsu girl. His boots make him a bit taller, but she's standing kinda in front of him, so she may seem a bit taller, too. Without their heads, an MH girl is slightly taller than a 25cm girl. TTM20's the guy with the beard on the left, of course. ^^
http://oi61.tinypic.com/wrerz6.jpg

Oh yeah, my fox boy is a definite hybrid, ^^ I just meant he didn't have an animal head like how most people imagine "furry" anthros. So it's good I don't have to make a muzzle, but that would be cool to see on a custom doll. ^^ I've got a lot of characters I'm making into dolls that are animal hybrids, but none of them have an animal head. I still need to get a lot of supplies and heads for them, but I'd love to share them when they are done. ^^

You mentioned epoxie clay for the chest...is that what people use to add parts onto their dolls? And the clay parts, do they match well when you paint on them? Does the clay stay on well, or fall off easily? I must sound like an idiot, but sometimes I need a lot of help remembering or figuring out things. I have really bad chemo-brain. :? I might try it for my sister's MH doll. She sanded down the chest (without a candle) and she wasn't happy about the shape. She thought it still looked like boobs because it was so round at the bottom where the boobs meet the ribs. She sanded it until it made a little hole in it, and I'm hoping epoxie can fix it. I don't want her to be sad about her doll. I thought I might be able to fill in the hole, add epoxie under the boob so it won't have so much of a valley, then shape it to look more like pecs.

Hmm, so I guess all I need to do is think of what I'm gonna do about my big guy's head. :shock: And clothes. I wonder what clothes fit him? Hegemony77 has some amazing clothes for him, but I don't think I can afford them right now. (I'm trying to make too many dolls at once! Aaah! All my characters, plus FF7's Reno & Rude <3) I might be able to make some clothes for him though, so no worries. ^^
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby Iwa_Hoshi » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:01 am

~TurkishDelight~ wrote:Hegemony's original pic:
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2s77sqv.jpg



wow. compared to the Pulip and Momoko (relatively close to Obi27) and the Hot Toys babe. TTM20 looks sufficiently tall and beefy for me. I can't tell if the head is Christian Bale or the T800 though
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby maywong » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:40 am

Apoxie Sculpt great to use. It sticks to anything.you can paint, sand, drill, etc it once it air dries.
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby DollyKim » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:48 pm

I agree with Apoxie Sculpt or Miliput, I've done heads with it and it's recommended for action figure repair. If you blend the seams and texture it right it can look invisible when painted.

Because you have about an hour to do your work don't mix up more than you think you'll use, I do my work in layers, and metal tools work best. Stuff like fingers can be done with a wire base. The only down side is it can get heavy if you use a lot.
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby MeltedCaramel » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:33 pm

~TurkishDelight~ Yep, any of the boots marked "Hot Toys" for men should fit him! :) Pick your favourite one and you've got a pair of footwear!!

I feel pretty lost about the head though. I have no idea what to look for, or what would look alright on the body. Would any Hot Toys head with a similar neck fit? Is there a line of heads to choose from? Maybe I should try to paint the Neo-Guy head? I have a feeling I won't be so good at that, haha. ^^
<----Well, considering you're going to have to repaint pretty much anyone you get, I'd say repainting the Neo-guy head might work okay. :) If not, try searching "Kumik 1/6 heads" and "Hot Toys 1/6 heads", you'll get a wide diversity of characters. Unfortunately the only remotely "anime" looking head I've seen is "Resident Evil Leon S Kennedy", but he's kind of a pretty boy...I have no idea what your character looks like so I can't really go recommending a head. I think the Neo-Guy might fit though. If you want to get him on sale on the Volks USA website when they reopen, he may be worth a try. If you buy the eye-hole one you can paint it yourself or send the head (and the neck joint or another piece for skin-tone matching) to a faceup artist. :D

The Comparison Picture- Yeah, like I said, I just wouldn't take it as ABSOLUTE fact since there can be subtle distortion even when they're all in the same picture, the camera may subtly lean this way or that way, but it seems like a decent representation of them. He's not going to TOWER, but he's definitely bigger and bulkier than most!! :D

Oh yeah, my fox boy is a definite hybrid, ^^ I just meant he didn't have an animal head like how most people imagine "furry" anthros. So it's good I don't have to make a muzzle, but that would be cool to see on a custom doll. ^^ I've got a lot of characters I'm making into dolls that are animal hybrids, but none of them have an animal head. I still need to get a lot of supplies and heads for them, but I'd love to share them when they are done. ^^
<----Like I mentioned, I have a lot of the same types of characters so I immediately knew what you were talking about. I personally like this "style" of furry best. Some people can draw adorable muzzled characters. I am not one of them. :lol:

You mentioned epoxie clay for the chest...is that what people use to add parts onto their dolls? And the clay parts, do they match well when you paint on them? Does the clay stay on well, or fall off easily? I must sound like an idiot, but sometimes I need a lot of help remembering or figuring out things. I have really bad chemo-brain. :? I might try it for my sister's MH doll. She sanded down the chest (without a candle) and she wasn't happy about the shape. She thought it still looked like boobs because it was so round at the bottom where the boobs meet the ribs. She sanded it until it made a little hole in it, and I'm hoping epoxie can fix it. I don't want her to be sad about her doll. I thought I might be able to fill in the hole, add epoxie under the boob so it won't have so much of a valley, then shape it to look more like pecs.
<----Sweetie why on earth do you think you'd sound like an idiot!? NOT AT ALL. I'm just glad I can help in any way, no matter how small!! To answer your question, yes, epoxie clay is what most custom artists use to add parts onto their dolls. The clay parts, once you paint the entire body (the body does have to be paint matched, or else repainted all over, but people manage this pretty easily) over the clay it should be indistinguishable that it's clay in some parts and plastic in others! I would recommend:

Aves Fixit Sculpt- This has a four hour drying time as opposed to regular Aves epoxie or Miliput, which both give you around an hour. It also handles much sharper edges. (It's a favourite for those of us that customize action figures because of how well it holds tiny, sharp edges.) The stuff dries hard as a rock and can be sanded and smoothed down beautifully. (Remember to wear a mask though since the dust is harmful, just like plastic/resin/etc dust.)

For your sister's MH doll, if you want to supply a picture of it I could give some more in depth pointers. Most likely you'll want to sand down the chest some more until there's going to be two decent sized holes (don't be scared, these will be covered over), and make sure the chest is completely flat from a side view. Then take a nice dollop of the premixed epoxie clay and mold and shape it to the chest, making your desired shape. Try and smooth the edges out the best you can and "blend" the edges slowly into the plastic. This will help to create a smooth, unbroken line when you go to sand and polish it off. Then I would use a brand like Testors Model Acrylics (or if you have another artist grade acrylic already on hand) and just buy the colours you think you'll need to mix and make the various doll colours, and paint! You CAN use craft grade acrylic on the bodies but it's often an exhausting, annoying process.

As for clothing, type in "Hot Toys 1/6 clothing" and a bunch of stuff pops up! :D I have NO IDEA how your character dresses, but some of the stuff is nice and cheap. Here's an entire outfit for only $16! http://www.ebay.com/itm/CC179-HOT-1-6-D ... 1175638153 <---Not sure if this is his style at all, but it's one of a bunch of stuff on there! They sell full sets of clothing or you can buy the clothes separately to make an outfit. :D

Last but not least: I must see Reno and Rude when they're finished! :lol:
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Re: Hot Toys TTM20 questions. :)

Postby ~TurkishDelight~ » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:05 am

Haha, of course I'll show you Reno & Rude when they're finished! ^^ The Reno doll on my currant avatar isn't mine. That's Tomoko's from Crystal Castle. She has amazing FF7 dolls! <3 I have her permission to use her pic, but I might update it with my dolls once they're finished. ^^

Wow, there are a lot of manly heads on eBay! I think I see a few that could work for my character. I'm going to try to get as many heads as I can for my characters during the Volks sale, since most of them don't have any heads yet. So I'm wondering if I should get the Neo-Guy head too or wait and get a Hot Toys one. Hmm, I still have a few days to decide. ^^

For his outfit, I was thinking something simple and manly, like the blacksmith Owen from Harvest Moon. <3 It shouldn't be to hard to find or make, there's probably combat stuff that would work. ^^ I was surprised Hot Toys even has cloth gloves! They have gloved plastic hands too, but I wonder if either of them fit TTM20. They should, right? o.O

Thank you for your tips about the clay. I'll ask her if she wants me to upload a pic of her doll for you to see. And thank you to you and to everyone for all the help you've been giving me. You've all helped me tons~ :P
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