An Apology

[K2!]

There are two sides to every story. It is up to each and everyone of us to weigh each side of an issue and decide for ourselves. Recently a new member took umbrage to how this forum is administered. After numerous private message exchanges, that member has decided to leave the forum. If you have received an “exiting” message from that member, we apologize for any problems or confusion this may have caused.

Here at the Dollieh Sanctuary we welcome dolls of all materials, sizes, and manufacturers. With a few exceptions, we would like to provide a forum for the discussion of all these dolls. If you feel your doll has been treated unfairly, please bring it to our attention. We would like to do what we can to accommodate every doll. Unfortunately there will always be things we can not accommodate.

We hope you and your dolls enjoy the haven we have created. We are always open to suggestions that would benefit the forum and its members.

Just be aware, some of us are old and don’t hear too good.

[Anneke]

Thank you so much for clarifying! I really appreciate the transparency of the operation of this board--and that you guys take the time to address such a touchy subject out in the open. It's always weird when things and people just vanish from "other" boards with no explanation. I also appreciate rules, especially when they are clear (something I have a problem with on the other board.)

Maybe it would help if the "WWII-era German Political Party" subject was written out in the manifesto? The manifesto is a joy to read because of the levity to it, but that also helped digest the more serious points of it I was surprised to find this "one-rule" that popped out of the aforementioned locked thread since I don't recall seeing it in the manifesto, unless maybe it was added in one of the later posts? It would also clarify that there's a ban on the symbolism or just on the discussion of the symbolism, because it would be sad if a dollieh got in trouble for jumping in here unprepared in an inappropriate uniform.

Anyway, thanks again for you guys' hard work to maintain such a nice place to hang out ^^ It truly is a joy and a pleasure for me to stretch out and relax here, and I'm sure most other members feel the same way.

[DollyKim]

I would like some clarification too as I have some historic DiD uniforms and insignia that may occasionally appear on dolls but do not represent personal beliefs.

[Greyhaunt]

K2 beat me to this - because he is on the north coast and I only just made it in on the west coast.

I think that the very fact that Roxy felt she needed to PM every member of this board speaks volumes as to the level of immaturity of her person and why we shall not miss her now that she is gone.

Was I rude to her - yes I was, but only after having attempted in three previous PMs to get her to understand that yes, while this forum does allow discussion of all dolls of all types that does not mean we will allow people to say anything they want to in any way they want to. When she begins to insult me simply because I disagree with her on what should and should not be allowed to appear in a forum then I'm going to fight back.

When anyone asks me to disclose to them the names of forum members who have complained about their behavior I absolutely refuse to do so. Anything said to me in a PM is confidential and with the possible exception of consulting with other mods as to dealing with a situation I will never disclose a name to another member.

I take full responsibility for having lost my temper and allowed my anger to shade my final response to her, since it resulted in her spamming the entire board. I very much apologize for the inconvenience that it has caused and I want everyone to know that I will do my utter best to never let that happen again.

This is a wonderful board, with absolutely wonderful members that make it what it is and I, along with the mods, will do everything I can to keep it as a place you want to be.

[Sixoclock]

Greyhaunt - I for one stick by you and your decisions. Period. You are awesome. Period.

That is all. <3

[Greyhaunt]

I would like some clarification too as I have some historic DiD uniforms and insignia that may occasionally appear on dolls but do not represent personal beliefs.

One of the disagreements that RGM and I had, was that she seemed to feel if you have a doll in a nazi uniform, then you are a nazi sympathizer. I happen to disagree with that - I'm fairly certain that most of the doll fans who do that (discounting those who do historical military dolls) are riding the wave of fantasy and romantisizing and have probably never even read a book about WWII, let alone know what the Nazis stood for.

While I won't claim that I like the nazi uniform trend, unless someone shows up here and starts doing a pro-nazi photostory series with their dolls I am not going to have a cow and delete pictures or anything like that. We are all mature adults around here.

In other words, unless you are stumping for nazi party, don't worry.

[K2!]

Thank you so much for clarifying! I really appreciate the transparency of the operation of this board--and that you guys take the time to address such a touchy subject out in the open. It's always weird when things and people just vanish from "other" boards with no explanation. I also appreciate rules, especially when they are clear (something I have a problem with on the other board.)

Maybe it would help if the "WWII-era German Political Party" subject was written out in the manifesto? The manifesto is a joy to read because of the levity to it, but that also helped digest the more serious points of it I was surprised to find this "one-rule" that popped out of the aforementioned locked thread since I don't recall seeing it in the manifesto, unless maybe it was added in one of the later posts? It would also clarify that there's a ban on the symbolism or just on the discussion of the symbolism, because it would be sad if a dollieh got in trouble for jumping in here unprepared in an inappropriate uniform.

Anyway, thanks again for you guys' hard work to maintain such a nice place to hang out ^^ It truly is a joy and a pleasure for me to stretch out and relax here, and I'm sure most other members feel the same way.

Trying to write a set of rules to cover all contingencies would be ridiculous so we don't have a lot of rules right now. We're sort of making them up as we go along. So when you start posting pictures of your ****** on a ********** riding a ********* with your Bobobie sprite, then yeah, expect someone to jump in and say, "Please don't do that".

Context has a lot to do with how a symbol is perceived. The hooked or bent cross was around for thousands of years and meant a lot of things to a lot of cultures before its prominent appearance in the mid 20th century. So don't loiter around here waiting for the list of banned symbology to appear any time soon.
As far as the nazi thing, with all the historical uniforms and things available in 1/6 scale, it would be difficult to just outright ban everything nazi. If you have WWII dolls and are looking for the right camo uniform for the 12th Panzer Brigade tank commander, please feel free to discuss that with like minded individuals. We do reserve the right to stop any such discussion should it venture into territory we deem inappropriate for this board.

Please feel free to discuss (just about) anything doll related. That's why we're here.

[kourika]

While I wasn't involved directly in the Nazi decision I have to agree that Nazi style uniforms in a historical context or by people who simply think that because they're produced in Japan, so they're more authentic is not deliberately offensive. I'm only going to be upset if someone decides to use their dolls as a way to try to argue that Germany was unfairly treated in World War II or that the Holocaust never really happened (although that's a bit hard to argue if you have pro-Nazi dolls).

[DollyKim]

I thought it was okay. According to that train of thought and my doll uniforms I'd be all sorts of things I personally don't subscribe to, least of which being a Disney Princess.

Because of help from the board in all it's incarnations I've been able to correctly name a lot of the guns and uniforms I have and pass that on to others.

[kourika]

I thought it was okay. According to that train of thought and my doll uniforms I'd be all sorts of things I personally don't subscribe to, least of which being a Disney Princess.

Because of help from the board in all it's incarnations I've been able to correctly name a lot of the guns and uniforms I have and pass that on to others.

You're not a Disney princess?!? FAKER!