Doll faceups & trust

[Alopecia No Hime]

Then stop shooting your mouth off. As a BUSINESS would you rather your product turn out shitty and half assed for the amount of money paid or would you rather it turn out perfect plus there is such a thing as heads piling up, along with blushing, layers, sealants, plus life hits you in the head. There's also with keeping up their personal life. A face up's artist job is to do face ups not bend and bow to everyone's little needs. They all have their own lives and aren't machines! What if someone was in the hospital needing emergency surgery and COULDN'T get to a computer or trusted anyone enough to give them their passwords to contact you? Would you yell at them then? You just don't know! What if they were pregnant and couldn't even go near the fumes of the sealents?

I'm sorry to sound harsh but as an artist who's worked her ass off for years just to WRITE, DRAW and PHOTOGRAPH that was the biggest insult I have ever seen!

[Dreamy Doll]

If heads pile up, YOU STOP TAKING ORDERS AND INFORM YOUR CUSTOMERS YOU'RE NEED TO FINISH PAST ORDERS FIRST. You do this before you get overwhelmed.

If giving you honest advice/feedback gets you insulted, maybe you shouldn't do this as a living? It's not a very professional attitude to say you can't work for months because of your personal life and let orders pile up for weeks and months and if anyone has a problem with that, they're being rude and you take offence.

Your response was also pretty unexpected, and in no good way~

I know and have ordered art (not dollieh stuff, but that's hardly relevant) from artists who can work WELL AND FAST, whose communication is DAILY and EXCELLENT (barring car accidents etc), and who KNOW how fast they can work, given the amount of orders, who don't take too many orders, and give you an estimate that USUALLY HOLDS TRUE, and who can update you realistically if there are delays, and who WON'T surprise you with sudden delays of weeks or months. I don't know if they've worked as artists as many years as you or not - but they're the kind of artists I want to be a customer to.

An artist not capable of that is not an artist that will get a customer out of me, ever~

ps. I never yell at anyone, but I do cancel my orders if the artist's behaviour is simply unacceptable (if, for example, the artist hasn't even STARTED a month after s/he said s/he WOULD, it's an automatic cancellation, negative feedback, and lifelong personal blacklisting. I mean, come on.) I do give leeway and don't expect the artist to be a machine, but i don't worship the artist as a god either - once the line is crossed, it's crossed.

[arrowchild]

Things sure do seem to be getting heated around here lately lol.

Dreamy Doll...as you are very new to this hobby and this forum and have yet to purchase a BJD let alone have experience dealing with commissionable artists, maybe some time to research is in order before making broad judgement calls about wait times and the artistic process? I think it's wonderful that you're so interested in this hobby and so impassioned about it, but you're still learning

We're all happy to help, but please try to remember that you're on a forum with people who have been in this hobby for a long time and that many of us are professional arists, (doll and otherwise). Like I said, we're all happy to show you the ropes, but being polite and respecting other people's knowledge is important in creating a happy forum experience, especially on a smaller one like this

[Kd_Bunchanumbers]

Get a local artist to do your face ups.

[Dreamy Doll]

Things sure do seem to be getting heated around here lately lol.

Dreamy Doll...as you are very new to this hobby and this forum and have yet to purchase a BJD let alone have experience dealing with commissionable artists, maybe some time to research is in order before making broad judgement calls about wait times and the artistic process? I think it's wonderful that you're so interested in this hobby and so impassioned about it, but you're still learning

We're all happy to help, but please try to remember that you're on a forum with people who have been in this hobby for a long time and that many of us are professional arists, (doll and otherwise). Like I said, we're all happy to show you the ropes, but being polite and respecting other people's knowledge is important in creating a happy forum experience, especially on a smaller one like this

I have zero negative feelings towards anyone here~! ^^ (and i don't mean any negative encounters to happen, whether they happen or not~!) If someone gets insulted because I say I expect a professional artist to be professional first, artist second, it is hardly my fault ^^; I appreciate all the help I've already gotten, I really do~!

But it shouldn't come with the price of having to forcibly agree with everyone here, should it?

I am giving you my views, you don't have to like them or agree with them, but I'm not trying to attack anyone with them~

I have the right to decide who deserves my money~ It's my money~ and if i say bad communication, poor ability to judge delays, poor ability to judge order completion times, poor ability not to take too many orders and get overwhelmed and delay every single one by a lot, etc are things that should not be characteristic to an artist I want to give my money to, then no one, not an artist and not a non-artist, should tell me I'm wrong, should they? I mean, it is my money~

I'm not telling anyone how to be an artist or how to be a professional, I'm just saying what kind of an artist I personally would/wouldn't give money to, and I don't understand how anyone has the right to take offence to it~ o.o Constantly taking offence where none is meant is also not a very attractive trait, imo~

[Kd_Bunchanumbers]

The thing is, with your views on doll topics, they seem very uneducated and you draw upon examples that really don't translate to what the actual doll hobby is like.

[arrowchild]

Things sure do seem to be getting heated around here lately lol.

Dreamy Doll...as you are very new to this hobby and this forum and have yet to purchase a BJD let alone have experience dealing with commissionable artists, maybe some time to research is in order before making broad judgement calls about wait times and the artistic process? I think it's wonderful that you're so interested in this hobby and so impassioned about it, but you're still learning

We're all happy to help, but please try to remember that you're on a forum with people who have been in this hobby for a long time and that many of us are professional arists, (doll and otherwise). Like I said, we're all happy to show you the ropes, but being polite and respecting other people's knowledge is important in creating a happy forum experience, especially on a smaller one like this

I have zero negative feelings towards anyone here~! ^^ (and i don't mean any negative encounters to happen, whether they happen or not~!) If someone gets insulted because I say I expect a professional artist to be professional first, artist second, it is hardly my fault ^^; I appreciate all the help I've already gotten, I really do~!

But it shouldn't come with the price of having to forcibly agree with everyone here, should it?

I am giving you my views, you don't have to like them or agree with them, but I'm not trying to attack anyone with them~

I have the right to decide who deserves my money~ It's my money~ and if i say bad communication, poor ability to judge delays, poor ability to judge order completion times, poor ability not to take too many orders and get overwhelmed and delay every single one by a lot, etc are things that should not be characteristic to an artist I want to give my money to, then no one, not an artist and not a non-artist, should tell me I'm wrong, should they? I mean, it is my money~

I'm not telling anyone how to be an artist or how to be a professional, I'm just saying what kind of an artist I personally would/wouldn't give money to, and I don't understand how anyone has the right to take offence to it~ o.o Constantly taking offence where none is meant is also not a very attractive trait, imo~

I understand that And nobody is asking anybody to agree or disagree...but your posts are coming across as increasingly defensive and inflamitory and, as I said, this is a small forum. We like peace and respect here-it's why we all love this forum so much

[Dreamy Doll]

The thing is, with your views on doll topics, they seem very uneducated and you draw upon examples that really don't translate to what the actual doll hobby is like.

o.o Of course they're uneducated, I'm very new to all things dollieh~! I have said it time and again, I don't know almost anything, and I'm eager to learn and thankful for all the help I've gotten~!

My views on ORDERING ART goes for ANYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE, not just dolliehs. If in the dollieh community the artists work exceptionally slow (I said if - I can't help but get that vibe if I get attacked after suggesting professional artists should work in some reasonable time frames) it's 1) not my fault, 2) not the way it should be 3) not something I will just accept because "that's how it is".

My views on anything else dollieh... I don't even remember what I've said o.o I don't have any specific views, just that I'd rather send a doll for faceup to a company than to a person, and... that's pretty much it~ anything else has been a preference, not a view (for example: i like bigger dolls vs. small dolls)

If I've said something stupid or something that's not exactly correct (about hot glue or sueding or whatever it may be), I've only asked if what i thought i read was correct~ I've never claimed to know anything about anything when it comes to dolls, because I don't - how should i?

I understand that And nobody is asking anybody to agree or disagree...but your posts are coming across as increasingly defensive and inflamitory and, as I said, this is a small forum. We like peace and respect here-it's why we all love this forum so much

I understand that, and I want peace and harmony as well~! But just recently, my writings have been increasingly attacked by the same 2-3 people on this forum, and when that happens, especially when I see no reason for it at all, when it seems the people only look for my posts so they can go off on me, I do get defensive~ (and when I get defensive, I don't write as nicely as when i'm relaxed and at ease) and I'm sorry, but it happens~

[Alopecia No Hime]

No one's been trying to attack you, we're actually just trying to defend our opinion's too because we have rights to our opinions as well and you come across as extremely ego driven and I'm sorry to say snobbish.

[KitKat]

Woah down there cowboy. The community here is sweet, kind, and fun. I'm what you would call one of the oldbies. I've been here since the forum started, since before this community went through (What, 3 different places now?), and I've seen MANY people come and go. I can say one thing. We keep things nice in our little Dollieh Land. If you have questions or conerns by all means ask them. I have never had a problem with questions being asked, but I would recommend settling down before you start calling people out.