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Barbie Controversy

Postby Calivano » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:44 pm

The new Barbies of the World has sparked controversy amongst some Latino Bloggers and news sites. Some people are saying:
“It would be nice to see some contemporary images from these countries,” Felix Sanchez, chairman and co-founder of the National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts, told Fox News Latino. “These images seem very dated and seem to have been created for a different time.”

As a Hispanic, I do not have a problem with these barbies or with my girls playing with them. I think they are a beautiful and accurate representation of our heritage, and would proudly display these barbies along with my other dolliehs. I believe all dolls and all cultures are beautiful. What does everyone make of this article?

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifest ... latestnews
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby yarwel » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:30 pm

I like the traditional costumes, but I can also see how it would be a good thing to show kids that these countries aren't just traditional or old fashioned. Maybe they could have made all the dolls all come with an alternate modern outfit. Then again, isn't the whole point to celebrate tradition?
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby Calivano » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:32 pm

I think a good idea would be to include a set of modern clothing that she could change into, I think that would ease the burdon of the controversy.
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby TsukiNoKemuri » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:43 pm

I think you've hit on a key point with "heritage" -- that's what is really reflected here. Sure, as the person in the article says, it'd be nice to see modern people reflected, too (and I imagine they are in other dolls outside of this series), but these dolls reflect culture and heritage, and it's that sort of traditional thing that makes each doll and country unique. So I certainly think these are fine. Include a modern outfit? Sure, that'd be fine. The little animals are adorable, too. :)
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby magkelly » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:30 pm

Every time they make a Barbie these days some group thinks it should be different. She's got too much cleavage. She's not black enough for AA. She's too light skinned to be Indian or Native American. She's should be wearing a more modern dress for her culture. They tried to make pregnant Mom doll with Midge and even though her character is supposed to be married to Alan that was too much for a lot of people. They made a doll in a wheelchair and that was too depressing for little girls to play with. The potty training little Kelly, too much. The Skipper who grew up, and got boobs, too extreme.

Actually Mattel has always made a lot of dolls of various skin colors and yes, some have been darker than Nikki. A peek into my doll bins would shock most people because they have NO idea of the variety of sculpts and skin tones used for Barbies over the years or what an effort Mattel has actually made to go there. Long before the multi-cultural Bratz came along Barbie had several AA friends. She had Asian friends, and Polynesian friends, and even handicapped friends. When almost no one was making AA dolls, Asian dolls Mattel WAS and even now they continue to do so. Yeah, there are only two AA people in the play line but you can find every skin tone from pale white to near black in the whole line over time if you look.

The DOW are meant to be traditionally costumed Barbies. They're not really meant to be for kids anyway. They're adult collector's dolls and most adults are not really caring about how authentic or how modern their Mexican Barbie is. As long as she's in a fiesta dress she'll likely sell, just like the many other so called Mexican dolls they've made over the years for the people who collect those. They're not worried about the kids. Those dolls are not playline. They don't have to be "correct" for kids, role models to play with.

Barbie was never meant to be authentically like us anyway. She's a fantasy fashion doll. Technically she's a blond, blue eyed girl from Malibu CA named Barbara Millicent Roberts and any other incarnations of her are not "Barbie" per say but her clones, friends, whatever you want to call them. Yes, they make Hispanic and Asian, and AA Barbies, but that's not who Barbie was created to be and I get really pissy when people forget that and criticize her up and down for being who she is, a blond, beach bunny with an equally blond life guard BF.

In the end she's just Barbie. If they can make her into anything else that's cool, but let her be "Barbie" first. Those other dolls they're just her clones, her costumes, her friends, and she shouldn't have to please the whole planet just to change her clothes to those of a girl from somewhere else from time to time. As far as I am concerned Mattel already does a really terrific job of trying to make Barbies that please most collectors and kids. It's the overly concerned parents who just don't seem to get it sometimes.

My Mom was like that and she hated Barbie. She was never good enough for my Mom. I was barely allowed to even play with them as a kid and I loved Barbie even though she looked NOTHING like me. A good part of the reason I am so obsessed with Barbie now is because for years I had to fight to be able to keep the two I actually managed to have as a kid and even then I ended up with their heads because my Mom tried to break and toss them. When I finally found them they were damaged and even then I had to hide from her their heads.

As an adult when I finally got me a Barbie of my own that looked more like me and that I loved she was an Irish Barbie. She wasn't modern at all. She was dressed in a silly and badly made Irish princess costume that to this day she never wears but I didn't care. I just loved her anyhow because I finally had a Barbie that was a fantasy version of me and that no one could ever take away from me ever again. All her incarnations I deeply respect Barbie. Even when I snark at all the the blond, beach bunny airhead playline Barbies, I still love them. No, she's not perfect, never was, but she's still the Queen of fashion dolls, always has been, always will be. Barbie has my heart, and she doesn't have to be politically correct or perfect, just Barbie. It's enough that she is who she is.

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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby AnnetheCatDetective » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:56 pm

None of the other countries feel like a modern representation, imho... China Barbie's in a cheong sam and holding a panda bear! Compared to her, Argentina Barbie's dance competition style dress looks pretty modern to me... But I've only seen a few recent Doll of the World Barbies in my area, so maybe there are some new ones out I haven't seen, I don't know.

If it is a problem, it's not a problem for just Hispanic/Latino groups, but whether or not it's a problem is one of those things that I think every buyer has to decide for themselves.
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby Trethowan » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:50 pm

magkelly wrote:Every time they make a Barbie these days some group thinks it should be different.....



Hell yes. I agree with you 100%. People need to get over themselves and their pet issues. Barbie rocks just like she is, and she rocked even harder BEFORE the "realistic" makeover.
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby Greyhaunt » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:22 pm

Screw the critics. Seriously. It seems like everytime you turn around someone is getting offended by something that isn't PC enough for them. One day we'll wake up in a sterilized world of identically dressed people afraid to even fart because they may be arrested for their funk discriminating against someone.

I have yet to see a Barbie of the World who was totally authentic. Doesn't matter, if they were someone else would bitch. You simply can never please everyone. I, for one, am glad to see a toy company not bending over forwards every time people people whine. Doesn't mean I'll buy a Barbie (I kind of grew out of them a bit and I loathe pink) but I'll respect what they do.

Oh -wait - I DO own a Barbie!!! I have Barbie and Ken as Star Trek (classic) characters. And dammit I'm utterly offended by the fact that she doesn't really have the same hairdo as Yeoman Rand!!! And what's with the Ken as Kirk thing? Where's the love handles???? They aren't at all authentic - I should toss them in the fireplace as sacrifices to the God of Perfection.

yes, that last bit was sarcasm.
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby Trethowan » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:54 am

Barbie dolls aren't my thing but the Star Trek dolls sound wicked cool.

*Dances before the throne of the God of Perfection, tossing imperfect Barbies in the fire*
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Re: Barbie Controversy

Postby Kd_Bunchanumbers » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:38 am

I just laugh how Australia Barbie is literally just her in a stylish khaki outfit :lol:
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